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Tagging 101

Posted by Kattlarv - September 23rd, 2021

Doing a briefer rundown on this again, as it's still one of the biggest struggles for people on here... and well, ALL sites that allow porn, really.


Right, so: Tagging.

Tags are what are used to allow people to search for specific content they are after.

Today, I'll go over probably THE most common one that people fuck up: Futa.


Short for futanari, and it has several synonyms.

Now: A futa is NOT a female. A futa is a futa.

That's why they have a separate, unique tag.


Should be pretty simple. Yet, people can't figure it out.

In tandem with this: People VERY often incorrectly tag two futa, or futa with a girl as "lesbian".

Lesbian is specifically "girl on girl". Again: A futa is not a girl. A futa is a futa.


"But my futa identifies as a girl!"

Yes. They can do that. That is however confusing sex and gender.

Tags only care about one of those... unless you also tag with "transgender"...


But, if you look at the tags: If you start typing "futa", what are some of the auto-fill options?

  • Futanari
  • Futa-on-female
  • Futa-on-male

Why do you think we have a unique, specific tag for futa on female and male?

It's ALMOST as if its there so that people that want lesbian porn, and those that want futa on female porn... to be able to search for it, without getting clashing, overlapping results.


Similarly: DO NOT tag something unless it's actually in there an at least notable amount of times.

For example: If you have a porn game with 40 scenes. If ONE of the scenes is two girls kissing. Do NOT tag the game with "lesbian". While you technically can. This is just a dick move. I have seen MANY games that have a "lesbian" tag, and no "straight" tag, or "male-protagonist" tag. And, finding out those games have less than 5 % lesbian content... is just wasting everyone's time. Especially the guys actually LOOKING for a ex: male demon trainer game or whatever. They'll take once glance at "lesbian" and no other tags and just go "Welp." and ignore the game. (This is a common occurrence on F95)


But now: You might point out that: "Hentaifoundry/E621/Derpibooru allows futa to be tagged as lesbian!".

And yes. Short answer: Users are fucking dumbasses that never read the site rules.

What about the admins? Short answer: Useless fucking tools that never read the site rules. (Also easily bribed)

Especially in HF's case. It's in their fucking "How to upload" rules you check the "I agree" box for when signing up. It SPECIFICALLY states that you agree to NOT tag futa+female as lesbian.

Though as said: Deadbeat admins+mods. To quote: "I don't need to know the rules. I AM THE LAW!"


Trailing off aside: Tagging isn't rocket science.

It's mostly just common courtesy to tag. It helps people find what they are looking for.

And, it prevents people finding something they're not looking for. Removing the "need" for the "This sucks, 0 stars!" reviews when someone came across something that lied to them.


Like, just let me make an example.

If you see the title "Hyper Futa Daisy X Peach Hardcore Anal". That seems like a VERY obvious title for what would be in that post. But now: Using the "tagging logic" most people that tag incorrectly use: This post can be Peach and Daisy scissoring. With two pussies. 0 dick. Oh and: One of the pussies are hyper.

And you might ask: "Where is the futa?" and I could reply: "Oh, Daisy identifies as a futa."

And then: "Where's the anal?" and I can go: "Well, their buttcheeks are touching. Thus: Anal."

Now: That would piss off a lot of people.


I could do the exact same thing with what appears to be two big, burly men.

Or "Ganondorf Rapes Zelda." and I slap a horsecunt on Ganondorf.

People would NOT like that. It's not what people "expect".

Yet: People mess this up ALL the time when it comes to specifically "lesbian" and "futa".


I mean, jebus: We're at a point where people see a "lesbian" game. And get SHOCKED and APPALED when said game doesn't ... contain men? Like, that's how bad people are at tagging. As: Quite a lot of guys think "lesbian" in a porn game just means "straight threesome".


Anyhow: I guess that wraps things up.

In short: Please work on tagging correctly. It makes it a better experience for all.

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deCarabasHJ

I agree completely. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people sprinkle their posts with less relevant tags to get more views, without realising that it ultimately has the opposite effect.

Kattlarv

That is certainly one reason.
Like, it's VERY popular for porn games to incorrectly have the "lesbian" tag.
Heck, I've seen two this year on F95 that had it because "They were THINKING of adding it later.". And a lot that just... doesn't know what lesbian even means.

Most people just don't seem to know what tags mean.
But those that do it for views, then get pissed at the negative ratings they get, are certainly a large chunk.

DeltaAuditor

Generally my gripe is you calling futas men, when you yourself say that they're futas, not men, which just seems counterintuitive to the point you're trying to make.

DeltaAuditor

Wanted to elaborate by the way, that the word stems from japanese media depicting hermaphrodism. While technically you aren't wrong calling futas guys, you also are not right. But they're also not neither.

The whole 'tagging issue' stems from the fact that it's mostly a universally accepted truth that futas are referred to with female pronouns because of their figure being female presenting. That's how transgender folk work too, mostly, if they transitioned to male from female than they are referred to as female.

But that's another can of worms. Because there's difficulty distinguishing what is a futa and a trans. Futa generally are either like 'full package' as in, penis and testicles and a vagina between them and the anus, or just dick and balls and asshole.

The former would usually be considered futanari, but the latter is also considered futanari, but so far as I've seen noone calls them men, and that's where my gripe stems from in the first place.

As such I may as well ask why you call them men when almost noone else does?

I respect your opinions and frustrations though and can understand why misleading tags can be annoying, but to me personally it's not an issue as I do not search by tags, I search by title, and usually that works out pretty well anyway.

Kattlarv

I am aware. Practically no-one use them as herm however. It has become a catch all term for "boobs+penis".

And, it's waaay more than futa that are tagged incorrectly.
They are just one of the biggest mistakes made continually.
And: Yes. Most people lie about futa that way. Since, that makes it "not gay". As they *appear* feminine.
Also: Porn wise. That's not true. If it has tits = Female. If it doesn't have tits = male.
That's how porn works. (With some exceptions. Like flat chested kobolds.)
If you have a trans man that still has breasts. People will just go "her".
That's not how it SHOULD be. But, that's how it IS. Heck, most sites would refuse to tag post op trans man+cis woman as "straight".

Anyhow: Yes. Futa are NOT trans. They are at best a porn caricature.
And yes, tagging wise: They have been smooshed by porn sites.

For a short rundown: The vast majority of ALL futa, nearly 97 (not an exaggeration) use the "dude with tits" archetype. Ie: They are "the dude" in a cheesy porno. The "Who ordered EXTRA MEAT" guy. And: They also have tits.
Their SOLE PURPOSE, is to "be the male" (with better curves). Nothing else.
They are there for the male viewer to either identify as, or project onto.
You can replace them with a floating dick. You can replace them with a generic fat guy. Nothing changes story wise. But what you CAN'T do, is replace them with a girl. The *entire* porn they are in then collapses. As: It was exclusively about the dick.
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They are there to be a dick. Pun intended.
Vast majority of them fail to "identify" as female as well.
If you ask the creator: They'll say its a girl. But, if you do the slighest poking: That facade crumbles.
Ex: They have names like "Big Daddy". They won't do anything "gay". (some exceptions)
I actually have a halloween comic addressing one such occasion:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBbRJvJXMAQCorW?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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That's roughly how most of them work.
People claim "they are girls", but if put in the same situation as a male character: People treat them like a male character. Such as not wanting them with "other men". There is ofc exceptions, but speaking in broad terms. In any of role "taking action", they *cannot* be replaced by a female. But they *can* be replaced by a male.

Then it also doesn't help that practically NONE of them are consistent. Swapping species, personality, proportions, orientation, sexuality and just about everything, in case of characters that can shapeshift or has a female>futa variant.
So, yes. I call them men. As, generally: *Nothing* about them is woman. (Bar from appearance)
Heck, this applies extra on games and whatnot where women are second class citizens. *Somehow* the futa are "an exception" to that. And treated as men by that world... but they're still TOTALLY girls. /S
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I HAVE actually seen some futa that "are women". But they are extremely rare.
To make a simple video game analogy: It's like someone claiming to be a healer, when they play a class that doesn't have access to any healing.
Also, yes: I know there's no "right way" to be male, female, or anything else in between.
But as said: This is porn. Stuff is VERY boiled down. It has established gender roles.
So put bluntly: I go based on actions, not words. And if someone's futa fails to meet their own definition of what a woman is "supposed" to do, but checks all the boxes of what a man does...

Searching by title doesn't work on several sites though.
It also doesn't help that I can search for "lesbian" and get straight content. (Like: Both are cis) Since: "Well, she IS canonically a lesbian!" people tag shit.

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